Friends,

I send this message as a true friend in the automotive industry.  As
some of you already know it is my mission to help dealers be
profitable and grow their results.
I wanted to reach out to you and send you this message to inform you
of what has been going on with Zag.com/TrueCar and the current
discussion.

I know that a lot of dealers are using Zag.com because they are sold
on the fact that they never pay for a lead and only pay $300 for when
the car gets sold.
The problem is that we give out access to our data.  Zag and TrueCar
pull all of our data including front end gross, trade value, and back
end gross.  Since they go into the database they pull information for
every deal that you did that month.

Now let's think.  Let's hypothetically say that you had an issue with
a deal.  I am talking about an issue where a customer was misquoted
severely to the point where you had one deal that you literally lost
$2,000 on.  This happens at some point or another.  Well now you let
Zag know of that information.  They take that low price and post it on
TrueCars.com as the best price out there.  Now you have customers
expecting to go into dealerships (including yours) to pay that
unrealistic low price.  This takes competition to a whole new level.

So I ask.  Why do we want to let a vendor take our data and use it
against us.  Let's face it, Scott Painter (CEO of TrueCar) has never
worked in a dealership or experienced the pain that we all had selling
cars and dealing with struggles.  He actually has been quoted saying
that he envisions this industry eliminating sales people with this
process.  Here is a man that is out to give consumers transparency
while hurting out business.  I believe in being fair, honest, and
showing transparency.  I do not believe in auto dealers getting hurt
to do it.  We should be playing on even field.  If Zag/TrueCar were
posting realistic figures allowing dealers to make a profit we would
not have any problems.

Check out this Automotive News Article: http://bit.ly/vbMAim

Also, Jim Ziegler has created a discussion on this topic right here
and you all need to read through this because it affect your business:
http://bit.ly/smOaRJ

Here are some more important resources for you to look at: http://bit.ly/jNtK8M

http://bit.ly/bIt4WP

The bottom line.  The automotive business has been great to me.  I
created a solid career out of it.  I learned skills in this business
that I would never learn anywhere (including college).  I have made a
decent living at it.  I started Dealer eTraining to give back to the
industry and help better our industry by providing training solutions.
 When I see a company get started that hurts our industry I care and I
want to see it go away.

As the saying goes, "there is no such thing as a free lunch".  If you
are using Zag because you like the at leads are free and you only pay
for the lead when the car gets sold you need to consider the damage
that you are doing by losing money on these deals and letting Zag use
your data to make you look bad in front of your customers as well as
create more tension between competing dealers.  Let's put an end to
this madness.  I propose that whoever is using Zag/TrueCar stop using
them and pass that on to everyone including your competitors.

Thank you.


--
Stan Sher
President
Dealer eTraining
Website: www.dealeretraining.com
Direct:             (732)925-8362      
Email: Stan@dealeretraining.com

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Comment by Tom Gorham on December 1, 2011 at 8:29pm

I'm with you on that.  Thank you!

Comment by Robert Stockton on December 1, 2011 at 6:59pm
Great post, we at one time used Zag to provide leads, and in the beginning it appeared to be a good deal for us, don't pay until you sell the customer. Some of the customers Zag sent we already had a relationship with and Zag wanted to be paid for those also. Then Zag started sending local customers information to contact other dealers outside the local market area, so now ZAG is sending our local customers our information as well as an out of market dealer 60-90 miles away. So much for Exclusive. Zag was making more than the dealership on a sale. Just does not make any sense. Finally had to treat them like a bad habit.
Comment by Keith Shetterly on December 1, 2011 at 2:06pm

Yes, they do . . . they have "data sharing" agreements with TrueCar/Zag, as well as they helped invest $200million in TrueCar/Zag while chasing TC/Z's IPO . . . it's a billion-dollar gambit . . . on YOUR DEALERSHIP's DATA . . . and aimed at KILLING YOUR FUTURE.  How hard is it now to just say "NO"?  :)

Comment by Stan Sher on December 1, 2011 at 2:01pm

Thank you.  I even went as far as putting it on my own blogs.  If you read this post there you will see I added information on ALG and DealerTrack as well.  That is right folks, DealerTrack has stake in this.  http://dealeretraining.posterous.com/the-reality-of-zagcomtruecar#

Comment by Keith Shetterly on December 1, 2011 at 1:58pm

GREAT post, Stan!!! Rally on!!!!  :)

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