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Every Dealer needs it... Every dealer should want it...

Started by Ray Bradford Mar 17, 2014. 0 Replies

Fact - Front end gross continues to get smaller         Competition is getting tougher         Warranty dollars are dropping         Legal, Health Insurance, etc... getting higherImagine increasing…Continue

To VMI or to NOT VMI

Started by Ryan Kleinjan Sep 9, 2011. 0 Replies

We are starting to see a growing trend on Non-VMI services in print, shop supplies, and uniforms, amongst others --What has been your experiences with these Non-VMI solutions?  Is it worth the…Continue

What is a "Lost Sale"? Is it confined to the Parts Department? Can we put a value on it?

Started by NANCY SIMMONS. Last reply by Tod Collins Jul 21, 2011. 1 Reply

Lost sales resulting from missed…Continue

Tags: Sales, Service, Parts, line, Sales

Is the Service Department the "NEW" Sales Department???

Started by NANCY SIMMONS. Last reply by Tod Collins Jul 21, 2011. 15 Replies

Sounds like a stupid question??? Well, what I mean is this...Has the dynamics of the retail operations of the dealership shifted to the Dealer Principals and GM's focusing more deserved attention to…Continue

Tags: sales, training, profit, service

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Comment by Frank Mercer on March 27, 2012 at 10:25am

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Comment by Josh Norfleet on September 30, 2011 at 12:40pm

Looking to add an additional 15-30 cars each month?  I'm sure for you principals, GM's, & GSM's out there you hear the same story & pitch from every direct mail rep that calls you...not to mention the headache of the 10 different calls you get everyday!!  Rest assured, there is a company out here ready & waiting to offer you a direct mail program that ACTUALLY WORKS!!  If you're the type of dealer that prefers to NOT deal with gift getters & tire kickers give me an opportunity to present my 2011 Credit Recovery Program to you & your management staff. 

All salesmanship aside, 90% of my dealers pull 2%-3.5% response with NO GIFTS, VOUCHER, or CIRCUS ACT and report 15-30 cars per 10K pieces!!  Typically, you'd be hard-pressed to see those type of results from a 50K piece gift-laced saturation campaign, let alone a specifcally targeted mailer!

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Comment by Ryan Kleinjan on September 2, 2011 at 12:09pm

Keep an eye on Auto-Renewals!!!


Are you currently tracking all of your supplier agreements?  We are starting to see uniform contracts stretching to 7 years recently. 

Rule 1 - nothing over 36 months

Rule 2 - no auto renewals - negotiate and take bids after every term to assure your pricing is consistent with the current marketplace.


If you need a contract tracker template, we have an Excel one we distribute via Dealer Magazine - just reach out I will email one your way!


Have a safe holiday weekend!



Comment by JIm Fisher on March 14, 2011 at 2:34pm

Dealers spend billions of dollars to find prospects to purchase their products and services.  Yet they spend hardly anything to consistently train and monitor and set minimum standards for their Managers and Salespeople.  Who is responsible for training in a dealership.  "The Owner" is and always will be.  What ever is important to the owner will be important to the employees.  If the owner is only concerned with profits, the employees will only be concerned with profits.  If the Owner is concerned with the policies, procedures and constant training of those policies and procedures which will in turn generate profits, the employees will too.

Why bring in more people and allow your untrained, out of date salespeople to handle them poorly.  I

If the Mangers do not train their people, the customers will.  If the Owners do not train their Manager, the salespeople will.  Bottom line is your people will be doing what the customers want them to do instead of the procedures necessary to allow the customer to make a decision.

Take 50% of your advertising budget and hire a greeter to count your customers, install an up system to make your salepeople accountable and make your Managers work with real closing numbers.  Spend money on hiring the right people and some sort of consistent training program and put the rest of it into bonuses based on increased performance for your sales crew as a team.

Comment by Ryan Kleinjan on March 14, 2011 at 12:09pm



Hey group!  This is our newsletter for this month.  If you are interested in the control of expenses in Energy. Lighting, or Garage Insurance - check this issue out.

Let me know if you have questions!


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Comment by NANCY SIMMONS on August 30, 2010 at 12:37pm
Facebook, the third largest country in the world with 1/2 billion users, means so many different things to so many different people! The on line community has provided so much joy to my life by meeting friends who I have never met in person, but I consider trusting and loyal friendships! In terms of an educational tool, daily training, inspiration and motivational posts, mixed in with a lot of good clean humor and fun, have forged friendships with car folk enhancing my quality of life! As a networking tool, facebook allows business contacts to network in a more relaxed and casual setting, really humanizing the concept of social media! Facebook has changed my life taking me away from the television and into this country which offers something for everyone!
Comment by MANNY LUNA on August 30, 2010 at 12:26pm
Chris Saraceno, facebook has help me in many ways.
Its helped me relearn the car biz all over again.

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